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Hmm, musime si ujasnit zopar veci ,,chlapce,,. Ja sa so Scholars casto ,,hadam,, takze som celkom v ,,obraze,,. Obavam sa ,ze vyznam versov preto chapem dostatocne ,,hlboko,,. Viem ta celkom pochopit. Si mlady clovek a se.xualna zdrzanlivost nebola nikdy domenou arabov. Lenze o veciach sa da aj diskutovat, nemusis hned ludi urazat. A fatwy typu ,,PC je haram,, su mi na smiech. Lenze Zina ostane Zina, aj ked to schovas pod iny nazov a trest za to, ti tu zrejme uvadzat nemusim.
vsak prave preto aby sa vyhlo zina sa robi to urfi )))) a PC je haram preto iste preco povazuju aj hudbu za haram.aka si selektivna,co ti vyhovuje vyhlasis za haram a co nie to povies ze haram nieje aj ked je fakt ze fatwa o tom ze masmedia su haram vydana bola a o urfi nikto nic nevydal ze by bolo haram
,,Vadit,, sa nepotrebujem, mam aj ine moznosti kulturneho vyzitia 🙂 Imam Ibn Taymiyyah rad vyhlasoval, ze trest za ,,murtad,, je smrt a pritom v Quran sa pise nieco ine…Mimochodom za jeho cias by si bol za svoje spravanie ukamenovany, preto ma zase udivujes, ze sa prave na neho odvolavas. Ja nie som selektivna, len sa nepriklanam k Hambali Madhabu. Uprednostnujem totiz metodu ,,idztihadu,,.
RE:Anonymný, Utorok, 26.2.2008, 0:10
I did ask Anonymný long time ago asking about his definition of Urfi & Misyar and up to date he was not able to get any definition ,a part from wikipedia, and left chat because its meaning less to chat about it with ignorance guy.
But yes Anonymný he knows nothing about Islam. And marriage in Islam which means responsibility , building family , and (SAKENAH) as written in Quran which means basically living in peace, I really doubt munera that , this guy he know is ibn teymeh or alabani?? I mean married ????????? just for s-ex .that is so stupid, that is not Islam??? Where did u read it in Quran, yes I born in Riyadh and we don’t have URFI in Saudi basically, URFI it’s not Islamic & it doesn’t happen in Saudi, and if u said so you are liar. The reason is not permitted in Islam are
1.its just a paper between 2 adult and 2 witnesses, its lack permission of the girl’s father & WALI , which is needed in any Islamic marriage , this was approved by sunnah scientists e.g. ( IBN massuad, IBN taymeh )
2. ISHAR what wrote before that every marriage in Islam need to not be in secrecy otherwise its not valid and again according to sunah scientists.
3. Mysiar is Islamic is sunah marriage and in normal Islamic halal marriage the only difference that the woman in her own will, she agrees to let one of her rights and allows the husband to not live all the time with her. And again he can’t say bye-bye without a strong reasons 2 divorce, and its marriage with intention of long term marriage. And it has conditions
Yes almost all gulf men they marry around 18-25 year old
KHYWANEH ITS NOT ARABIC WORD
PLEASE YOU HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT ISLAM DON’T WRITE OR GIVE YUR EVIDANCE…..انا من السعودية ياحبيبي ورجأ لا تجيب العيد فى الشات
Vidim ze aj tu sa pestuje tradicny folklor, ked si dvaja muslimovia navzajom vycitaju ze ten druhy nevie nic o islame. Nejak velmi casto som toho svedkom. Nie zeby som bol prilis znaly temy, len ked sa sem tam rozpravam so saudami co pridu na leto do kahiry tak vacsina riesi prostitiutky cez nejaku carovnu veticku, ktoru vyslovia pred tym a po tom. neviem co to je. orfi je tu najviac vyuzivane na to aby muz-muslim a zena cudzinka mohli spolu byvat v jednom byte, alebo sa aspon navstevovat. ale neviem ako a kde sa to vybavuje. len vidim ze vela ludi tym papierom mava bawabovi pred ocami.
Ahmed sorry but u r just for LAUGH )))) HAHAHa !!!! We dont have urfi in SAUDI ??????????? Do u wanna make your slovak wife quiet???????????Either you r stupid or dreamer .A dangerous dreamer ! Sure you wish for whole world khalifat! Who do u wanna pursue about your truth?Your wife?Do it in bedroom ! Your writing here is a pure nonsense.There is no more urfi and misyar in whole arabic world than in Saudi.There is no more divorces and wife abandonment than in Saudi.Ahmed,what are u trying to pursue us about?Saudi and Bahrain has worst prospective for marriage.In Saudi,woman is nothing,she is sold into marriage ,she dont even know the man and if she tells no,she is killed by family.Urfi for divorced and widows is the only chance there they can have a man again for short time.Divorced woman is shame for family and her chance for decent remarrying is almost zero! Misyar is very common.None of these marriages is haram or prohibted.Stop writing your shit bcs i will think that you aint any arab just provocateur!If u were living in Saudi,u would NEVER write that rubbish what u just wrote !
Ahmed you dont practice islam and u never lived in arabic country to see it in life bcs what u write and understand is pure THEORY !!!!!!!!! U have red it and understood yr way but its not like this.If u lived in arabic world you would not citate sentences from quran you will say it by your words the way you practice it.Yr knowledge of quran is purely based on readings.Dont play you are arab from arabic country.You are just toying with something new ,reading and thinking its 100% in reality as u r reading it ! But sorry to tell u real life is different !
Ahmed je nieco ako basbort tvrdi ze co je modre je cervene.Presviedca nas tu o svojej pravde aj ked su to zjavne vymysli! Ahmed,naco je to dobre tu prekrucat pravdu?Aby islam vyzeral nobl?Vies co ti poviem? V skolach vyhodili urcite sury z ucebnic lebo……domysli si ze preco….nikto nezije na 100% podla toho co quran kaze,je to prakticky nemozne a ze ty si to myslis,tym len davas tusit ze bud ty sam si cerstvy konvertita a s praxou nemas skusenost alebo sa tu snazis oblbovat tie dve uz aj tak poriadne…..muneeru a muslimku aby si mysleli ako spravne urobili ked konvertovali.Nic nieje nebezpecnejsie ako nabozensky fanatik.Vsetko ma svoje hranice a quran sa da nastastie pochopit aj ako dobre a neopresivne nabozenstvo ktore nas nenuti nenavidiet a zabijat ak si vysvetlime aj vyznam medzi riadkami……….Laylat al Qadr….hovori ti to nieco Ahmed???? Preto pocuvame hudbu hoci je haram preto obcas pijeme aj ked je to hram preto si obcas dame salam aj ked je to haram,preto …preto…atd…..lebo Allah je milosrdny dal nam tuto noc v ktoru sa modlime za odpustenie hriechov……Islam nieje cierno biely….nieje opresny…..nechal nam otvorene dvere aby sme dostali odpustenie za svoje poklesky ! allahu akbar!
Ahmed je nieco ako basbort tvrdi ze co je modre je cervene.Presviedca nas tu o svojej pravde aj ked su to zjavne vymysli! Ahmed,naco je to dobre tu prekrucat pravdu?Aby islam vyzeral nobl?Vies co ti poviem? V skolach vyhodili urcite sury z ucebnic lebo……domysli si ze preco….nikto nezije na 100% podla toho co quran kaze,je to prakticky nemozne a ze ty si to myslis,tym len davas tusit ze bud ty sam si cerstvy konvertita a s praxou nemas skusenost alebo sa tu snazis oblbovat tie dve uz aj tak poriadne…..muneeru a muslimku aby si mysleli ako spravne urobili ked konvertovali.Nic nieje nebezpecnejsie ako nabozensky fanatik.Vsetko ma svoje hranice a quran sa da nastastie pochopit aj ako dobre a neopresivne nabozenstvo ktore nas nenuti nenavidiet a zabijat ak si vysvetlime aj vyznam medzi riadkami……….Laylat al Qadr….hovori ti to nieco Ahmed???? Preto pocuvame hudbu hoci je haram preto obcas pijeme aj ked je to hram preto si obcas dame salam aj ked je to haram,preto …preto…atd…..lebo Allah je milosrdny dal nam tuto noc v ktoru sa modlime za odpustenie hriechov……Islam nieje cierno biely….nieje opresny…..nechal nam otvorene dvere aby sme dostali odpustenie za svoje poklesky ! allahu akbar!
Dobre rano Basbort. Ano mas pravdu , zacina to byt uz folklor. Ja sa zatial celkom dobre bavim.
Hlavne ked jeden arab obvinuje druheho araba ze nikdy nezil v arabskej krajine a pritom sa tam narodil, to uz je vazne zabavne.
Ale moj manzel pozna taketo pripady s klinickej praxe. V realnom zivote su to zakriknute a casto dokonca sikanovane osoby. A internet im dava moznost vyliat si anonymne zlost na druhych.
Janu ,,Eyrovu,, som uz citala (este na ZS), takze dakujem za upozornenie, uprednostnujem viac iny zaner. Napr. Kurt Vonnegut alebo Heller.
Na araba ale celkom dobre narabas zo slovickami ako ,,explicitne,, vazne zaujmave.
Este dodam pre muslimskych ,,kolegov,, (zacinam stracat prehlad kolko vas tu je) Ano mas pravdu, Allah odpusta hriechy a nielen pocas Laylat al Qadr. Lenze je rozdiel medzi hriechom spachanym neumyselne, z nevedomosti. A hriechom spachanym za plneho vedomia a umyselne. To, ze je niekto muslimom, este neznamena vstupenku do raja…
Vies co si nam tu muneera raz prezradila?Ze vas monitoruje policia.To nerobia len tak a kazdemu arabovi,to robia len tym ktori sa ukazuju ako podozrivi.Vraj ta nahovarali aby si udala ostatnych….no pekne,….to sa mne teda nikdy nestalo…..preco asi?Pretoze posobim normalne na rozdiel od vas !
Takto sa misyaruje a urfuje v Saudi … class=“postlink“ href=“http://www.wluml.org/english/newsfulltxt.shtml?cmd“> http://www.wluml.org/english/newsfulltxt.shtml?cmd [157]=x-157-541133 Ahmed vas KLAME!!!!
pre Len tak zo zvedavosti:
Odpoved na Tvoju otazku ohladne potratov a plastickych operacii sa mi zda uplne normalna.
Jednoducho som bola v soku, ked som si to precitala, a narychlo som hned napisala odpoved.
Neskutocne ma tato otazka zarazila, ze v dnesnej dobe sa niekto moze pytat, ako je to v islame s potratmi.
To je vsetko.
teda pre SOS od veriacej:
Tie otazky, ktore v buducnosti dostanes od svojej dcery si vystihla velmi dobre, este si asi zabudla, ze sa tiez opyta, preco neoslavujete Vianoce.
Inac ten Tvoj prispevok sa mi zdal dost cynicky, hlavne jeho zaver.
Budes bojovat o prava dcery slobody rozumu.
To si fakt bola taka naivna a myslela si,ze po dohode s priatelom moslimom bude moct si dcera vybrat nabozenstvo???
Nehnevaj sa, ale to je fakt naivne.
Kazde dieta, ktoreho otec je moslim, je vychovavane v islame.
Musis byt v strasnom dusevnom rozpolozeni, ked takto pises.
Ty mas dve moznosti, alebo prijmes islam, alebo budes pisat pokracovanie Bez dcery neodijdem. Len aby Ti ten Tvoj priatel neodisiel skor aj s malou do svojej krajiny,a potom good bye.
Neviem presne, ci Ty vlastne vies, co chces, kazdopadne Ti zelam vela trpezlivosti a zdraveho rozumu pri rozhodnutiach, ktore ucinis.
Dobre rano,teda den
VZhladom k prispevkom Sos by som sa chcela opytat,ci tu na tomto fore pise (resp.iba cita tak ako ja)aj zena,matka-krestanka,ktora zije s muslimom.Ci su spolu ako rodina stastni,ci sa daju taketo rozdiely zvladnut a zit v pohode alebo take nieco neexistuje????Dakujem
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